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	<title>Comments on: The Good Life is Rife With Politics</title>
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		<title>By: Ptacek</title>
		<link>http://chelseagreen.com/blogs/makennagoodman/2009/04/06/the-good-life-is-rife-with-politics/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Ptacek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm glad I saw this, kudos!</description>
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		<title>By: Uriah Z</title>
		<link>http://chelseagreen.com/blogs/makennagoodman/2009/04/06/the-good-life-is-rife-with-politics/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Uriah Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think there's anything wrong with back to the landers. If you want to work on a farm, I don't think you'll find many who'll resent you for being from out-of-state. The rural culture has long since disintegrated due to the effects of television and tourism, anyway. 

The hate for flatlanders, as I understand it, isn't about property rights in the real sense, but the perception. Most Vermonters wouldn't consider Chittenden county (with fully a third of the population of the entire state) a properly Vermont kind of place to live at all, whatever its job and cultural opportunities. It's not about preserving the right to create sprawl. No one wants the sprawl but the big developers. It's about the perception of freedom. It's about hassles and confusing, restrictive bureaucracies transported from points south with the flatlanders who've moved in with their big bank accounts and taken over local governments. It's about being told what to do. And it is especially about not being able to afford to buy property on the basis of local salaries. It's about money, more than anything.

In the town Chelsea Green is located, you have people complaining about and preventing the installation of windmills and cell phone towers. You have people complaining about the pig farm down the road stinking up the neighborhood. You have a selectboard mostly made up of wealthy interests from out of state making decrees that punish the poor to preserve the illusion of 'rural character' that never really existed to begin with, a planning commission that is wholly devoted to rising property values as a sustainable and admirable goal, with all the spiraling property taxes that come with it. Cops acting like sharks, abusing those who can't afford to follow the law, just helping create an entire underclass of people who are underwater and will never get themselves to a place of comfort no matter how many hours they work, because no job they can get will ever pay enough for them to own a home in the area, because of slum lords who rent out shabby apartments for prices hardly better than Boston, because cars are so expensive and so absolutely necessary to life there, because for as small a community as it is, and with such low unemployment, there is no loyalty on the part of employers. If you slip up at any time, you're done for. If you get sick, you're done for. And no one will help you, no one can help you, because the social divisions mean that you only know the impoverished if you're one of them. The hate is because you can't afford to live your life with dignity if you're a regular joe who stayed in town after high school.

It's class resentment, same as most of the rest of rural America, made so much worse because there are so many from out-of-state, and it's mainly the flatlanders who are doing fine, and it's mainly the young and the local who are struggling. Remember that whole 'Take Back Vermont' thing? It didn't gain so much momentum because people cared so much about homosexuals-- it gained momentum because of the class resentment it played upon. It's undirected rage, and it's been at the boiling point for as long as I can remember.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t think there&#039;s anything wrong with back to the landers. If you want to work on a farm, I don&#039;t think you&#039;ll find many who&#039;ll resent you for being from out-of-state. The rural culture has long since disintegrated due to the effects of television and tourism, anyway. </p>
<p>The hate for flatlanders, as I understand it, isn&#039;t about property rights in the real sense, but the perception. Most Vermonters wouldn&#039;t consider Chittenden county (with fully a third of the population of the entire state) a properly Vermont kind of place to live at all, whatever its job and cultural opportunities. It&#039;s not about preserving the right to create sprawl. No one wants the sprawl but the big developers. It&#039;s about the perception of freedom. It&#039;s about hassles and confusing, restrictive bureaucracies transported from points south with the flatlanders who&#039;ve moved in with their big bank accounts and taken over local governments. It&#039;s about being told what to do. And it is especially about not being able to afford to buy property on the basis of local salaries. It&#039;s about money, more than anything.</p>
<p>In the town Chelsea Green is located, you have people complaining about and preventing the installation of windmills and cell phone towers. You have people complaining about the pig farm down the road stinking up the neighborhood. You have a selectboard mostly made up of wealthy interests from out of state making decrees that punish the poor to preserve the illusion of &#039;rural character&#039; that never really existed to begin with, a planning commission that is wholly devoted to rising property values as a sustainable and admirable goal, with all the spiraling property taxes that come with it. Cops acting like sharks, abusing those who can&#039;t afford to follow the law, just helping create an entire underclass of people who are underwater and will never get themselves to a place of comfort no matter how many hours they work, because no job they can get will ever pay enough for them to own a home in the area, because of slum lords who rent out shabby apartments for prices hardly better than Boston, because cars are so expensive and so absolutely necessary to life there, because for as small a community as it is, and with such low unemployment, there is no loyalty on the part of employers. If you slip up at any time, you&#039;re done for. If you get sick, you&#039;re done for. And no one will help you, no one can help you, because the social divisions mean that you only know the impoverished if you&#039;re one of them. The hate is because you can&#039;t afford to live your life with dignity if you&#039;re a regular joe who stayed in town after high school.</p>
<p>It&#039;s class resentment, same as most of the rest of rural America, made so much worse because there are so many from out-of-state, and it&#039;s mainly the flatlanders who are doing fine, and it&#039;s mainly the young and the local who are struggling. Remember that whole &#039;Take Back Vermont&#039; thing? It didn&#039;t gain so much momentum because people cared so much about homosexuals&#8211; it gained momentum because of the class resentment it played upon. It&#039;s undirected rage, and it&#039;s been at the boiling point for as long as I can remember.</p>
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		<title>By: Leiner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that we live in a time of real transition.  It scares many of us because maybe we can't picture living our lives in smaller more practical ways. Slow Food, Slow Money, Slower life...thinking of "place" in a way that sustains one personally, knowing that sustenance like eating a good meal, needs to be repeated again and again...it can't just happen once.  It's all a kind of practice...being in the moment with our lives, but living those moments fully - whatever that means for each of us.  When I read your blog, it gets me thinking about the minutiae of my own life - minutiae is what counts...despite what Webster defines minutiae...the small moments, the work we do in them either sustains us or it doesn't.  I re-read Donald Hall's book, "Life Work" a while ago - and I know you did too.  It's a wonderful thing to be able to stand back from one's life and say, "Yup, that's how I wanted to live." there are those on both side of the fence that will give you trouble for coming either to the Urban life or the Rural life in the way that you do --and then both those sides will scoff at the suburban life.  I say, "Do unto others, do unto the land..." I know for sure you are on the right trail.!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that we live in a time of real transition.  It scares many of us because maybe we can&#039;t picture living our lives in smaller more practical ways. Slow Food, Slow Money, Slower life&#8230;thinking of &#034;place&#034; in a way that sustains one personally, knowing that sustenance like eating a good meal, needs to be repeated again and again&#8230;it can&#039;t just happen once.  It&#039;s all a kind of practice&#8230;being in the moment with our lives, but living those moments fully - whatever that means for each of us.  When I read your blog, it gets me thinking about the minutiae of my own life - minutiae is what counts&#8230;despite what Webster defines minutiae&#8230;the small moments, the work we do in them either sustains us or it doesn&#039;t.  I re-read Donald Hall&#039;s book, &#034;Life Work&#034; a while ago - and I know you did too.  It&#039;s a wonderful thing to be able to stand back from one&#039;s life and say, &#034;Yup, that&#039;s how I wanted to live.&#034; there are those on both side of the fence that will give you trouble for coming either to the Urban life or the Rural life in the way that you do &#8211;and then both those sides will scoff at the suburban life.  I say, &#034;Do unto others, do unto the land&#8230;&#034; I know for sure you are on the right trail.!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: jsmcdougall</title>
		<link>http://chelseagreen.com/blogs/makennagoodman/2009/04/06/the-good-life-is-rife-with-politics/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>jsmcdougall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it when outsiders come into the rural culture and actually dig their hands in. It's the folks who come in and try to transplant their unsustainable suburban lives here that I can't stand. I don't want to see McMansions in our cow fields. The suburban "culture" is woefully out of touch with the reality of the natural world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it when outsiders come into the rural culture and actually dig their hands in. It&#039;s the folks who come in and try to transplant their unsustainable suburban lives here that I can&#039;t stand. I don&#039;t want to see McMansions in our cow fields. The suburban &#034;culture&#034; is woefully out of touch with the reality of the natural world.</p>
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