Comments on: Equal Pay For Equal Work: The Moment For Women Is Now http://chelseagreen.com/blogs/madeleinekunin/2009/01/15/equal-pay-for-equal-work-the-moment-for-women-is-now/ Just another The Chelsea Green Weblogs weblog Wed, 19 Jun 2013 05:13:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: jte http://chelseagreen.com/blogs/madeleinekunin/2009/01/15/equal-pay-for-equal-work-the-moment-for-women-is-now/#comment-59 jte Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:21:47 +0000 http://chelseagreen.com/blogs/madeleinekunin/?p=19#comment-59 Madeleine: hear hear! Also, as I understand them, the statistics on the difference in pay for men and women hides something: the main difference in pay, when you account for things like race and education is mostly between men vs. women who have children. Women who don't have children earn, on average, very nearly the same as what men earn. (Though it doesn't matter much for men in terms of their pay if they have children or not.) In other words, most of the pay "penalty" for being a woman, in the U.S. today, is actually a penalty for being a mom. Jeffrey: almost all the talk about legal system reform that I've seen comes from the corporate perspective ("block 'frivolous' lawsuits"). I'm sure there are proposals for reform that come from a more progressive, worker-oriented perspective, and I've love to know what they are. My first thought on this is that you'd need to have something equivalent to the Public Defender system, but for civil cases. It'd be expensive, in some respects, but would also pay for itself in others. (As with private civil lawyering, the State could take a cut off of any winnings to help defray the cost of the system.) Even though I've just mentioned this idea, I'm not sure I'm ready to endorse it. Just throwing it out there as an example of something that might level the legal playing field a little. Madeleine: hear hear! Also, as I understand them, the statistics on the difference in pay for men and women hides something: the main difference in pay, when you account for things like race and education is mostly between men vs. women who have children. Women who don't have children earn, on average, very nearly the same as what men earn. (Though it doesn't matter much for men in terms of their pay if they have children or not.) In other words, most of the pay "penalty" for being a woman, in the U.S. today, is actually a penalty for being a mom.

Jeffrey: almost all the talk about legal system reform that I've seen comes from the corporate perspective ("block 'frivolous' lawsuits"). I'm sure there are proposals for reform that come from a more progressive, worker-oriented perspective, and I've love to know what they are. My first thought on this is that you'd need to have something equivalent to the Public Defender system, but for civil cases. It'd be expensive, in some respects, but would also pay for itself in others. (As with private civil lawyering, the State could take a cut off of any winnings to help defray the cost of the system.) Even though I've just mentioned this idea, I'm not sure I'm ready to endorse it. Just throwing it out there as an example of something that might level the legal playing field a little.

]]> By: Jeffrey http://chelseagreen.com/blogs/madeleinekunin/2009/01/15/equal-pay-for-equal-work-the-moment-for-women-is-now/#comment-57 Jeffrey Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:55:49 +0000 http://chelseagreen.com/blogs/madeleinekunin/?p=19#comment-57 Is there anyone talking about making the legal system more efficient at this time? It's not fair and it's not right when the time and cost of legal action (unwarranted litigation, etc...) is used as an excuse to continue immoral discrimination. Is there anyone talking about making the legal system more efficient at this time? It's not fair and it's not right when the time and cost of legal action (unwarranted litigation, etc…) is used as an excuse to continue immoral discrimination.

]]> By: Madeleine M. Kunin: Equal Pay For Equal Work: The Moment For Women Is Now | Black News Tribune http://chelseagreen.com/blogs/madeleinekunin/2009/01/15/equal-pay-for-equal-work-the-moment-for-women-is-now/#comment-53 Madeleine M. Kunin: Equal Pay For Equal Work: The Moment For Women Is Now | Black News Tribune Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:53:55 +0000 http://chelseagreen.com/blogs/madeleinekunin/?p=19#comment-53 [...] This was originally posted at Chelsea Green. [...] [...] This was originally posted at Chelsea Green. [...]

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